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and for now from boston, i'm jim lehrer thank you and good night. from coral gables, florida, i'm jim leery, thank you and good night. from oxford, mississippi, thank you, senators, both, i'm jim lehrer, thank you and good night. ( applause ) >> good job. >> good job, john. >> woodruff: that interview with jim and kate leerir was record last fall. >> ifill: again, the major developments of the day: president obama and mitt romney prepped for their face-to-faceÑi meeting tonight in denver, where they will square off in the first debate. and the syrian civil war threatened to boil over, after mortar fire from syria killed five people in a village in turkey. the turks fired back at targets in syria. and in a new project launching today, the "newshour" is allowing you to make your own political ads. kwame holman explains. >> holman: gwen, the adlibs mozilla game let's the viewer be the candidate. you can mash up your facebook photos to make personalized political ads. find that on our home page. today in making sense, with millions of americans still o
and for now from boston, i'm jim lehrer thank you and good night. from coral gables, florida, i'm jim leery, thank you and good night. from oxford, mississippi, thank you, senators, both, i'm jim lehrer, thank you and good night. ( applause ) >> good job. >> good job, john. >> woodruff: that interview with jim and kate leerir was record last fall. >> ifill: again, the major developments of the day: president obama and mitt romney prepped for their face-to-faceÑi meeting...
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sign. >> and the phrase "let's not" which jim lehrer uttered was tweeted. >> warner: a lot of high points dealt with substance. weighty issues, health care, medicare. >> absolutely. so there was -- obamacare. >> there was a lot of focus on twitter, even though you have 140 characters. that was very substantive debate but there was another point when the president said "i have five more seconds." he was trying to get his point out. >> warner: so the moderator it was high point. >> and big bird was also trending. >> after romney said he would cut off the pbs subsidy. so there was a lot of rooting going on. >> warner: i read that google topped about their top four searches during the debate and two of them were dodd-frank and simpson-bowles. so it looked like people were using the web to research. >> right. and what's interesting as we look at facebook and facebook in the term that people were looking at. you've got romney obama debate. big bird. >> and jobs. so we see the focus on it was mostly about the economy, you see the focus on the substance of this debate as opposed to just the zinge
sign. >> and the phrase "let's not" which jim lehrer uttered was tweeted. >> warner: a lot of high points dealt with substance. weighty issues, health care, medicare. >> absolutely. so there was -- obamacare. >> there was a lot of focus on twitter, even though you have 140 characters. that was very substantive debate but there was another point when the president said "i have five more seconds." he was trying to get his point out. >> warner: so...
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our own jim lehrer is moderator, and you can join me and gwen for our special, beginning at 9:00 p.m. thank you, and good nigt. major funding for the pbs newshour has been provided by: intel. sponsors of tomrorow. and by the alfred p. sloan foundation. supporting science, technology, and improved economic performance and financial literacy in the 21st century. and withhe ongoingupport of these institutions and foundations. and... this program was made possible by the corporation for public broadcasting. and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. captioning sponsored by macneil/lehrer productions captioned by media access group at wgbh access.wgbh.org
our own jim lehrer is moderator, and you can join me and gwen for our special, beginning at 9:00 p.m. thank you, and good nigt. major funding for the pbs newshour has been provided by: intel. sponsors of tomrorow. and by the alfred p. sloan foundation. supporting science, technology, and improved economic performance and financial literacy in the 21st century. and withhe ongoingupport of these institutions and foundations. and... this program was made possible by the corporation for public...
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our own jim lehrer is moderator, and you can join me and gwen for our special, beginning at 9:00 p.m. thank you, and good night. major funding for the pbs newshour has been provided by: intel. sponsors of tomrorow. and by the alfred p. sloan foundation. supporting science, technology, and improved economic performance and financial literacy in the 21st century. and with the ongoing support of these institutions and foundations. and... this program was made possible by the corporation for public broadcasting. and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. captioning sponsored by macneil/lehrer productions captioned by media access group at wgbh access.wgbh.org >> this is "bbc world news america." funding of this presentation is made possible by the freeman foundation of new york, stowe, vermont, and honolulu, newman's own foundation, and union bank. >> at union bank, our relationship managers work hard to know your business, offering specialized solutions and capital to help you meet your growth objectives. we offer expertise and tailored solutions for small
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tell me how you're going to cut taxes. >> i think jim lehrer will press on this. i think he'll say what loopholes are you going to close? what tax benefits are you going to take away in? what cuts are you going to make in thing like pell grants. i don't know exactly how he will do it but i think he'll press on that. he prides himself on being substantive, on understanding these issues, and feeling the purpose of a presidential debate is to get these guys out of their stump speeches and into a real conversation with each other and with the american people. >> well, that's what we all try to do in this business. i think everybody i know tries to do that. get the person off the memorized material, because we're so bored with that. we don't think it teaches anything. you had a point about behavior, body language and smiling. i was taken with your idea that you smile too much, it looks like a smirk. have you to hold your smile to what's funny, how about that use of the smile, when something's really funny? >> the smile -- look, there's this is no problem for the presid
tell me how you're going to cut taxes. >> i think jim lehrer will press on this. i think he'll say what loopholes are you going to close? what tax benefits are you going to take away in? what cuts are you going to make in thing like pell grants. i don't know exactly how he will do it but i think he'll press on that. he prides himself on being substantive, on understanding these issues, and feeling the purpose of a presidential debate is to get these guys out of their stump speeches and...
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>> i don't think jim lehrer needs to. >> okay. the knockout blow. are we going to see it when we hear? >> i think you will. the people in the hall missed it during the infamous gore debate because we didn't hear the sign. if you have that awkward moment and people jump back, that's the sort of thing that can change the trajectory. >> mark, your thoughts. processing answers, like bob bowl when he says that bill is a markup. >> exactly. i can get this out of conference. we can go forward. i think that a lot of the discourse in politics and in debates can be about process, about who's got a plan or why you've done a certain thing. often one candidate will try to accuse another. the think the winner is the one who sticks to, what do the american people care about? how to specific the economy and don't get bogged down in the process. it's easy to flip. >> do you think it's a problem -- you talk about being optimistic. these guys are used to throwing red meat out, getting nurtured. the rules are -- there is no noise, no reaction. so you throw out what you
>> i don't think jim lehrer needs to. >> okay. the knockout blow. are we going to see it when we hear? >> i think you will. the people in the hall missed it during the infamous gore debate because we didn't hear the sign. if you have that awkward moment and people jump back, that's the sort of thing that can change the trajectory. >> mark, your thoughts. processing answers, like bob bowl when he says that bill is a markup. >> exactly. i can get this out of...
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and keep up the talk on the doubleheader and our own jim lehrer will appear in a segment with cbs's bob schieffer on the program "sunday morning" this weekend to talk about the history of presidential debates. >> suarez: and to the last installment this week in our series of reports about america's dropout problem. tonight, we take a second look at a story about life outside the classroom. we head back to st. petersburg, florida, where one boy's enthusiasm for journalism has helped shine a light on problems, while brightening his future at the same time. it's part of our "american graduate" project. this is how 14-year-old de'qonton davis starts every school day in st. tersburg, florida. he wakes up early and walks his 12-year-old sister terrijana six blocks to the bus stop. to the casual eye, his family's neighborhood seems pleasant and sunny. but on closer look, the scars of poverty and a lingering recession become apparent-- high unemployment, foreclosures, and some of the highest crime rates in the city. last month, de'qonton says he began making it a point to walk with his sister,
and keep up the talk on the doubleheader and our own jim lehrer will appear in a segment with cbs's bob schieffer on the program "sunday morning" this weekend to talk about the history of presidential debates. >> suarez: and to the last installment this week in our series of reports about america's dropout problem. tonight, we take a second look at a story about life outside the classroom. we head back to st. petersburg, florida, where one boy's enthusiasm for journalism has...
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meanwhile, al roker last night regarding jim lehrer, he tweeted this -- i hope jim lehrer gets the license plate of the truck that drove over him in this debate. i wonder if the truck was covered with hay. probably not. straight ahead, dr. larry sabato tweeted this last night: can't wait to hear the back story on how obama debate team so misjudged this faceoff. poor prep. dr. sabato here next. >> brian: comedian jeff donnel is here and he brought a few friends. i don't know who is better looking. does your phone give you all day battery life ? droid does. and does it launch apps by voice while learning your voice ? launch cab4me. droid does. keep left at the fork. does it do turn-by-turn navigation ? droid does. with verizon, america's largest 4g lte network, and motorola, droid does. get $100 off select motorola 4g lte smartphones like the droid razr. >> steve: voters say they want details on how each president ideal candidate plans to change the economy. but did they get information over load last night? >> over the last 30 months, we've seen 5 million jobs in the private sector created.
meanwhile, al roker last night regarding jim lehrer, he tweeted this -- i hope jim lehrer gets the license plate of the truck that drove over him in this debate. i wonder if the truck was covered with hay. probably not. straight ahead, dr. larry sabato tweeted this last night: can't wait to hear the back story on how obama debate team so misjudged this faceoff. poor prep. dr. sabato here next. >> brian: comedian jeff donnel is here and he brought a few friends. i don't know who is better...
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whatever james -- jim lehrer does tonight he will be criticized. remember, the candidates in the republican primaries, we ask them attacking the moderators from the state. gingrich did it with wrong king of cnn and our own juan williams during the republican primaries. our senior political analyst brit hume has been in this position. here is his take on the job difficulties. >> you are at the center of attention but you don't want to be. you want the candidate to be the story, you want to facilitate that. you have to be firm enough and sharpen your questioning enough so it makes for an interesting debate and be careful not to cross the line to where it looks like you are favoring one candidate over another. >>jonathan: he says he things it is unlikely the candidates themselves will attack the moderator tonight because he says while that may happen in a primary contest it is far less likely to happen with these candidates trying to look presidential tonight. >>shepard: there is criticism over a lack of racial diversity. >>jonathan: just divertity in
whatever james -- jim lehrer does tonight he will be criticized. remember, the candidates in the republican primaries, we ask them attacking the moderators from the state. gingrich did it with wrong king of cnn and our own juan williams during the republican primaries. our senior political analyst brit hume has been in this position. here is his take on the job difficulties. >> you are at the center of attention but you don't want to be. you want the candidate to be the story, you want to...
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the fact is, jim lehrer is part of the cultural left. so romneyville to communicate pastlerrer and past obama to reach the american people. if he does that, i think he could have a very good night. i think you could see a very different races by thursday morning. >> greta: why do you think jim lehrer will be unfair? he has the spotlight on him. i mean, you know, he -- i assume he will try his best to be fair? >> he will try his best to be fair. i am not saying he is partisan. i am saying he comes out of a news media culture, the whole network of where he lives and operates, what he does, which has the assumptions of the left and which asks questions on the framework of the left. they are very often ntheir mind being totally neutral, when they ask request questions that clearly reflect the biases of the left. that's a key part of this. >> greta: do you think that in general, moderates try to pit one candidate against another, to generate a spark in order to generate news? >> i think all too often, moderators try to play gotcha and be clev
the fact is, jim lehrer is part of the cultural left. so romneyville to communicate pastlerrer and past obama to reach the american people. if he does that, i think he could have a very good night. i think you could see a very different races by thursday morning. >> greta: why do you think jim lehrer will be unfair? he has the spotlight on him. i mean, you know, he -- i assume he will try his best to be fair? >> he will try his best to be fair. i am not saying he is partisan. i am...
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i've known jim lehrer for a long time. he won't be constricted by the -- he could well go into libya and what's been happening in the second part of the debate. >> not just the first 45 minutes are important, after the debate, our job, the fact checking, reality checking, wolf, a little bit on that. >> we certainly do, anderson. a very impressive reality check team to determine if the candidates are telling us the truth tonight. john berman is one of the team's leaders, joining us now. john, you have been fact checking candidates' recent claims on the campaign trail what are you seeing? >> we took a look at what candidates have been saying the last few days, to get a flavor of what things might look like in terms of the truth. tack cuts, who deserves them, who gets them? president obama claimed again that mitt romney is looking for new tax breaks worth trillions of dollars for those meshes with the most money. >> they think that somehow you can lower our deficits by spending another $5 trillion on new tax breaks for the we
i've known jim lehrer for a long time. he won't be constricted by the -- he could well go into libya and what's been happening in the second part of the debate. >> not just the first 45 minutes are important, after the debate, our job, the fact checking, reality checking, wolf, a little bit on that. >> we certainly do, anderson. a very impressive reality check team to determine if the candidates are telling us the truth tonight. john berman is one of the team's leaders, joining us...
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lehrer, you know, as bad a moderator as jim lehrer is being said to be today, i thought mitt romney's attitude toward him was actually a negative thing for him and didn't help him in the big problem he has, which is likability. >> yeah. it felt to me like mitt romney showed up thinking that his goal was to be the alpha male. >> right. >> and that he needed to assert his dominance over everyone there, and certainly jim lehrer bore the brunt, the president as well. i got the sense that for him it was a dominance thing. it was very aggressive, and i agree with joy, i think a lot of women, particularly women who were already inclined to vote for the president, which as we know many women are, are going to be further turned off by that tone. >> do you think that he was like that because of the goading that he's had from republicans who feel that he's a bit e feet, that he's not really tough enough, that he hasn't gone out and beaten everybody up? >> i think it's part of that. if you go back and look at the primary debates, mitt romney was largely the same way. he's a vicious debater. he ge
lehrer, you know, as bad a moderator as jim lehrer is being said to be today, i thought mitt romney's attitude toward him was actually a negative thing for him and didn't help him in the big problem he has, which is likability. >> yeah. it felt to me like mitt romney showed up thinking that his goal was to be the alpha male. >> right. >> and that he needed to assert his dominance over everyone there, and certainly jim lehrer bore the brunt, the president as well. i got the...
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jim lehrer's questions may alter the course of events. we don't know if romney's going to get to use his zingers. we don't know if obama's going to press the 47% issue. i don't think anybody knows what's going to happen. >> as a moderator, not only did you make history, you had to walk a very line, but what sort of pitfalls do moderators have to be wary of? >> well, you have, you can't, you can't think about what people are going to say about you. i tried to do my job as a good journalist, to be fair and to be objective and to be professional. and to seek the truth. i employed those attributes as a reporter and despite how professional i thought it was an how fair i thought i was, i was accused of making george bush look bad and of making clinton look good, which was completely false. clinton did his thing on his own. and the public saw his warmth and his ability to connect with people and they liked that. george bush blew that question you showed a part of. that was the good part of his answer, but when he first heard the question, he wa
jim lehrer's questions may alter the course of events. we don't know if romney's going to get to use his zingers. we don't know if obama's going to press the 47% issue. i don't think anybody knows what's going to happen. >> as a moderator, not only did you make history, you had to walk a very line, but what sort of pitfalls do moderators have to be wary of? >> well, you have, you can't, you can't think about what people are going to say about you. i tried to do my job as a good...
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it was a curious choice of all the journalists that jim lehrer is who they called on for this. the one criticism that i see that resonates the most with me. we have three presidential debates and this was the domestic policy debaltdebate. this was a narrow set of policy questions last night. there were no questions about immigration last night or gay marriage last night. >> women's issues. >> these are major issues in the campaign and there's a movement to diversify the moderator pool a little bit. >> jim lehrer is a historic choice for them, but they treated him as a replacement ref. he should be out of the pool. >> i didn't think he was great. you can't blame the moderator. they had the same. >> he was terrible at his job. >> ultimately this wasn't about jim lehrer but president obama and mitt romney. they both had the opportunity to take advantage of the situation, and one did and one didn't. >> all right. so what do we make of all the 2012 election predictions out there? the original nate, nate silver is in the guest spot next, or is it becoming the nate spot? we had nate c
it was a curious choice of all the journalists that jim lehrer is who they called on for this. the one criticism that i see that resonates the most with me. we have three presidential debates and this was the domestic policy debaltdebate. this was a narrow set of policy questions last night. there were no questions about immigration last night or gay marriage last night. >> women's issues. >> these are major issues in the campaign and there's a movement to diversify the moderator...
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for now, from the university of denver, i'm jim lehrer, thank you and good night. [cheers and applause] neil: the first presidential debate is done, and the two men, did, in fact, bring it on. i'll let some of the pundits and others who we will not be interviewing tonight, but some of their respective supporters, the respective spouses give their congratulatory hugs, put the proper spin on it, but i do want to show you a phenomena that is unique in american politics after a debate of this magnitude. i want to switch to where i am now here in what they call the spin room. the spin began before these guys were even done. you could see florida senator marco rubio, who was here before the debate was even finished, talking to the press, no doubt, saying mitt romney had done very well. it's hard to sit here. if we can pull out, guys, or get a sense of the throng pushing in this room, but on the opposite side of the room -- if we can leave marco rubio and spin around if that's possible, there's a crush of republicans and democrats giving reporters their perspective two ce
for now, from the university of denver, i'm jim lehrer, thank you and good night. [cheers and applause] neil: the first presidential debate is done, and the two men, did, in fact, bring it on. i'll let some of the pundits and others who we will not be interviewing tonight, but some of their respective supporters, the respective spouses give their congratulatory hugs, put the proper spin on it, but i do want to show you a phenomena that is unique in american politics after a debate of this...
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. >>> only tonight's debate moderator, jim lehrer, knows for sure what questions will be asked. he's getting plenty of advice. just take a look at this snapshot. >> question today, what would you ask the candidates in tonight's debate? >> one of the questions we know is going to be front and center each candidate whether or not the voters actually trust them in handling the economy. >> where'd the money go? who's got the money? who's got my money? and what about a little health care? >> two words, obama care and romney care. >> are you better off than you were three and a half years ago? is the world safer? do you think we're going in the right direction? >> a lot of that, charlie, depends on the questions. >> let's get straight to our cnn contributor margaret hoover and the rest of our unsolicited advice panel. margaret. >> thanks a lot, wolf. here we are, we've got a debate tonight. we have six 15-minute segments on the economy. carly, we were talking before in the green room. you think your question would be about taxes. what would you ask the governor or the president? >> we
. >>> only tonight's debate moderator, jim lehrer, knows for sure what questions will be asked. he's getting plenty of advice. just take a look at this snapshot. >> question today, what would you ask the candidates in tonight's debate? >> one of the questions we know is going to be front and center each candidate whether or not the voters actually trust them in handling the economy. >> where'd the money go? who's got the money? who's got my money? and what about a...
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they have two minutes to respond to the question and then jim lehrer's going to narrate the back and forth. there should be enough time. >> one thing i want to say though is that this is going to be for a bunch of young americans their first chance to vote. a lot of the young americans didn't watch the conventions, they had summer vacation. now they're going to be tuning in. what i think they should be talking about is what are they going to do for young people? we have a jobs crisis in this country. we have kids graduating off a cliff every spring with no jobs, huge debt. and romney unfortunately when he was governor of massachusetts actually devastated financial aid for young people trying to go to college. college went up 65%, cost of college 65% under romney as governor, tuition help went down. those -- >> well, college costs have gone up 25% under president obama. what i find so interesting about all the conversation about ryan's budget i hope that jim lehrer and all the media who are watching and commenting on this debate expect the same level of specificity from president obam
they have two minutes to respond to the question and then jim lehrer's going to narrate the back and forth. there should be enough time. >> one thing i want to say though is that this is going to be for a bunch of young americans their first chance to vote. a lot of the young americans didn't watch the conventions, they had summer vacation. now they're going to be tuning in. what i think they should be talking about is what are they going to do for young people? we have a jobs crisis in...
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. >> were you surprised that he went there with jim lehrer hosting the thing? >> i was very surprised. i would say that moment is probably the closest we got to one of romney's awkward, you know, mitt-isms like $10,000 bet or something. it was probably a low moment. it's a little awkward between him and jim lehrer, but the sper action on obama dp the interaction on obamacare was somewhat amusing to hear them talk about that phrase. >> i heard some people say, well, that's what he plans to do and he was willing to say it right there and to stand up to what he stands for. want to go and look at an exchange between the president and jim lehrer very quickly. let's take a look at this. >> now, the last point i'd make before -- >> two minutes is up, sir. >> i think i had had five seconds before you interrupted me. [ laughter ] >> there's that smile. what did you think of that? >> it's supposed to be funny, and i think you can look at it and laugh. i do think this is one of his poorer moments in terms of his personality, his personnability. he had a tendency to be a l
. >> were you surprised that he went there with jim lehrer hosting the thing? >> i was very surprised. i would say that moment is probably the closest we got to one of romney's awkward, you know, mitt-isms like $10,000 bet or something. it was probably a low moment. it's a little awkward between him and jim lehrer, but the sper action on obama dp the interaction on obamacare was somewhat amusing to hear them talk about that phrase. >> i heard some people say, well, that's what...
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not going to be easy for jim lehrer. even if romney won't answer for them, it needs to be spelled out loud and clear to the american people who have been lied to. mitt romney has not been straight with americans on where he stands and where he wants to take the country and there's no better platform than for the president to take him to the house. how can you expect him to be straight with you as president when he can't even run his own campaign? get your cell phones out. tonight's question, will mitt romney continue his campaign of lies at tomorrow's debate? text a for yes or b or no. you can always go to our blog. we'll bring you the results later on in the show. joining me is robert gibbs, senior obama campaign adviser. great to have you with us tonight. there's so much meat on the bones here. we have laid out all of the distortions and the lies that we have seen from the romney campaign. there's a lot of target-rich environment for president obama. what about this tax plan. is president obama obligated to supporters
not going to be easy for jim lehrer. even if romney won't answer for them, it needs to be spelled out loud and clear to the american people who have been lied to. mitt romney has not been straight with americans on where he stands and where he wants to take the country and there's no better platform than for the president to take him to the house. how can you expect him to be straight with you as president when he can't even run his own campaign? get your cell phones out. tonight's question,...
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for now from the university of denver, i'm jim lehrer, thank you and good night. >> that's the end of the first >> that's the end of the first presidential debate between governor romney of massachusetts and president obama. you see both men being greeted by their wives on stage. even this portion of the debate is negotiated ahead of time by the campaigns in terms of which members of their family will be joining them on stage. this is, these these are negotiated down to this level of detail. in terms of how the overall debate unfolded, i personally do not know who won this debate. i do feel that we saw this debate format die a very painful death on camera tonight. the contrast between the candidates was stylistic as much as substantive. president obama i think calm and basically explanatory tonight. governor romney, more hyper, and i don't mean that in a negative way, just sort of more amped, more assertive. and that manifests in a way that the debate format was just dismantled. the format and i think the moderator, with all due respect to mr. lehrer dismantled. this is one of those d
for now from the university of denver, i'm jim lehrer, thank you and good night. >> that's the end of the first >> that's the end of the first presidential debate between governor romney of massachusetts and president obama. you see both men being greeted by their wives on stage. even this portion of the debate is negotiated ahead of time by the campaigns in terms of which members of their family will be joining them on stage. this is, these these are negotiated down to this level...
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from boston, i'll jim lehrer. thank you and good night. [applause] [captions performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2012] 6 >> see the presidential debate. next, vice president biden campaigns in florida. then vice-presidential candidate paul ryan speaks at ai rally in new hampshire. after that, the 1984 presidential debate between ronald reagan and walter mondale. >> tomorrow on "washington journal" two presidential candidates cake cake your calls and questions. jill stein from the green party, and the author of "party matters," virgil goode. >> it is the number one priority, and it is the most untouchable thing. that is going to cause more trouble than any other prop problem we have currently in the united states. getting medicare costs under control is the number one thing. >> you say we also surcharge smokers? >> yes. >> for their medicare coverage. where did you get that idea? >> it came from us. i'm the person that put it in the memo, but i didn't have to fight very hard for it.
from boston, i'll jim lehrer. thank you and good night. [applause] [captions performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2012] 6 >> see the presidential debate. next, vice president biden campaigns in florida. then vice-presidential candidate paul ryan speaks at ai rally in new hampshire. after that, the 1984 presidential debate between ronald reagan and walter mondale. >> tomorrow on "washington journal" two presidential...
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he has to take do not get -- do not answer jim lehrer. go after president obama and speak to him in the second person and say you have failed unfortunately and here is what we can do differently and make it a sharp contrast. >> chris: interestingly enough, liz, when i talked to congressman ryan about the fact that romney needs a clear victory because of the state of the polls he pushed back against that. does he need a clear victory? >> he does. i think there is universal consensus that he has to do something to shake up the trajectory of the race and a safe performance probably isn't going to be enough at this point. having said that i think it might not be that hard for romney to get a win in the first debate. challengers get the win. >> chris: just by the fact that they are on the same stage as the president. >> presidents sometimes feel on some level a little irritated that they have to go through this and that times comes across. the think the dynamics will in some ways actually favor romney. all romney has to do i sort of disagree w
he has to take do not get -- do not answer jim lehrer. go after president obama and speak to him in the second person and say you have failed unfortunately and here is what we can do differently and make it a sharp contrast. >> chris: interestingly enough, liz, when i talked to congressman ryan about the fact that romney needs a clear victory because of the state of the polls he pushed back against that. does he need a clear victory? >> he does. i think there is universal consensus...